What Muslims Say in the West

In conversations, we should listen to what other people say and try to interpret in the best light possible. What we should never do is interpret people's ideas like congressmen's vote are interpretted in attack ads in the United States. The worst possible interpretation of a vote is given--even when common sense dictates that the intent of the congressman's vote was something entirely different. It's hard for me to understand any person stupid enough to fall for these ads. For instance, when any person in their right mind is told that their far right congressmen voted to help the Chinese military, they should have doubts about the fairness of what is being said. Since this sort of ad exist, we must assume that many people are falling for them. I suppose I am being elitist here, but I'm not sure what other response is appropriate.

In conversations, we should also be careful about claiming people are lying. Before I would claim anyone is lying, I think it is important to claim that the liar has malicious intent in making a statement that he knows is contrary fact. This definition would, for example, exclude Bill Clinton during the sexual inquisition since even if he did perjure himself, he did not lie under this definition since he didn't have malicious intent. (Another important issue about lying is that the word "liar" should almost never be used, except as I used it before in this paragraph. Hollering "liar" at others impedes serious conversation and is uncouth.)

I bring all this up, because I have been watching Muslims on YouTube such as Ahmed Bedier and Imran Siddiqui. They make statements about civil liberties that they do not believe in the least. They know that they don't believe it, because what they say blatantly contradicts their religion. I should probably include the sources here, but if you read JihadWatch or LittleGreenFootballs, you should easily be able to find examples of Western muslims saying contradictory things in English and Arabic. Further more, the muslims say their counterfactual statements with the malicious knowledge that if they have the chance they they will make members of other religions second class citizens or worse. In short, even a fair minded person must admit that muslim spokesmen lie continually.